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Carl Stouffer
Tue, Feb 11, 2020 3:04 PM

Although I don't have this one out yet, it seems to look a lot like the last one that failed, kind of distorted and twisted.  What Jim H says about
not clamping the small end really tight makes sense as it would allow some movement in the boot.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-gmc/p59007-distorted-cv-boot.html

Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging.  GMCSJ and GMCMI member

Although I don't have this one out yet, it seems to look a lot like the last one that failed, kind of distorted and twisted. What Jim H says about not clamping the small end really tight makes sense as it would allow some movement in the boot. http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-gmc/p59007-distorted-cv-boot.html -- Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Carl Stouffer
Tue, Feb 11, 2020 3:10 PM

Also, I have heard off net from a couple of other people that the standard boot, as pictured, is 'junk' and the Dorman boots with more pleats works
much better. Vendors take note.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-gmc/p59004-distorted-cv-boot.html

As we all know, the clearances are really tight and the problem might be caused by my penchant for driving on dirt roads, causing gravel to get in
there and tear the boot.  I understand this is a somewhat common problem with front wheel drive vehicles in general.

Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging.  GMCSJ and GMCMI member

Also, I have heard off net from a couple of other people that the standard boot, as pictured, is 'junk' and the Dorman boots with more pleats works much better. Vendors take note. http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-gmc/p59004-distorted-cv-boot.html As we all know, the clearances are really tight and the problem might be caused by my penchant for driving on dirt roads, causing gravel to get in there and tear the boot. I understand this is a somewhat common problem with front wheel drive vehicles in general. -- Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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John R. Lebetski
Mon, Feb 17, 2020 6:17 PM

Looks to me like a chemical incompatibility between the boot and grease or some other outside chemical attack.  Distorted and crazed and puckered and
I bet it's no longer pliable. Could it have been hit with Brakeclean or something similar?

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

Looks to me like a chemical incompatibility between the boot and grease or some other outside chemical attack. Distorted and crazed and puckered and I bet it's no longer pliable. Could it have been hit with Brakeclean or something similar? -- John Lebetski Woodstock, IL 77 Eleganza II
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Scott Nutter
Mon, Feb 17, 2020 7:10 PM

Carl,
That is exactly how my last two boots looked when they split. I talked to the rebuilder in Ocala Florida, and he said that when he puts the boot and
grease on the joint he also squeezes out all the air and pulls the small end of the boot to the first indent to band it in place. My guess is that the
boots might be a little too short, so it creates a vacuum inside the boot causing the boot to collapse at the rib. Then over time it fails..
Jim K was kind enough to send me new boots with grease. I reinstalled the new boots, but didn't extract any air..2000 miles on the new boots so far
with no distortion at the rib.. maybe the cause?? Seems plausible.
Scott.

Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas

Carl, That is exactly how my last two boots looked when they split. I talked to the rebuilder in Ocala Florida, and he said that when he puts the boot and grease on the joint he also squeezes out all the air and pulls the small end of the boot to the first indent to band it in place. My guess is that the boots might be a little too short, so it creates a vacuum inside the boot causing the boot to collapse at the rib. Then over time it fails.. Jim K was kind enough to send me new boots with grease. I reinstalled the new boots, but didn't extract any air..2000 miles on the new boots so far with no distortion at the rib.. maybe the cause?? Seems plausible. Scott. -- Scott Nutter 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI Houston, Texas
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Ray Erspamer
Thu, Feb 20, 2020 12:19 AM

The blue boots are awesome and hold up incredibly well.  Not sure you can buy them anymore.

Ray Erspamer
78 GMC Royale
414-484-9431

The blue boots are awesome and hold up incredibly well. Not sure you can buy them anymore. -- Ray Erspamer 78 GMC Royale 414-484-9431
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Carl Stouffer
Thu, Feb 20, 2020 1:38 AM

I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it, similar to the blue Super Boots.  I would like to get a part number for those so I
can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage.

Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging.  GMCSJ and GMCMI member

I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it, similar to the blue Super Boots. I would like to get a part number for those so I can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage. -- Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
JK
Jim Kanomata
Thu, Feb 20, 2020 5:46 AM

We sell few different ones
Go to our site and I can discuss them

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:38 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it,
similar to the blue Super Boots.  I would like to get a part number for
those so I
can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage.

Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
Eagles,
Solar battery charging.  GMCSJ and GMCMI member


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We sell few different ones Go to our site and I can discuss them On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:38 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist < gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote: > I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it, > similar to the blue Super Boots. I would like to get a part number for > those so I > can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage. > -- > Carl Stouffer > '75 ex Palm Beach > Tucson, AZ. > Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, > Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American > Eagles, > Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member > > _______________________________________________ > GMCnet mailing list > Unsubscribe or Change List Options: > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org > -- Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Newark,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.gmcrvparts.com 1-800-752-7502
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Burl Vibert
Sat, Jul 31, 2021 9:44 PM

Carl S. wrote on Wed, 19 February 2020 19:38

I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it, similar to the blue Super Boots.  I would like to get a part number for those
so I can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage.

I just put a Dorman grey neoprene boot (614-004) on my driver's side. I don't know if this is the model you were asking about, it has many pleats.
I posted a photo online and someone warned that they can interfere with the shock at certain angles.  Anyone run into this?  I have one for the other
side and an holding off putting it together until I gather more knowledge.

Here's a picture:

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Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie

Carl S. wrote on Wed, 19 February 2020 19:38 > I'm told that Dorman makes a good boot with several 'pleats' in it, similar to the blue Super Boots. I would like to get a part number for those > so I can replace the bad one and still have a spare shaft in the garage. I just put a Dorman grey neoprene boot (614-004) on my driver's side. I don't know if this is the model you were asking about, it has many pleats. I posted a photo online and someone warned that they can interfere with the shock at certain angles. Anyone run into this? I have one for the other side and an holding off putting it together until I gather more knowledge. Here's a picture: -- Burl Vibert Kingston, Ontario 1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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twlldeen@gmail.com
Sun, Aug 1, 2021 1:33 AM

Not changed any boots 'cept the steering shaft ...so take what I say on that basis ....I purchased a blue silicone "universal" boot on Amazon and
trimmed it to fit the upper steering shaft. This is a very flexible boot and from what I can see of it should last a heckuva lot longer than rubber or
neoprene.

Check the size, it might fit the CV joint.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07ZFB1N14/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Larry

Larry - Victoria BC -

1977 Palm Beach 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New Atwood fridge, water heater & furnace. New SS exhaust system,
6000w Onan, Iota Converter, R134A A/C, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses

Not changed any boots 'cept the steering shaft ...so take what I say on that basis ....I purchased a blue silicone "universal" boot on Amazon and trimmed it to fit the upper steering shaft. This is a very flexible boot and from what I can see of it should last a heckuva lot longer than rubber or neoprene. Check the size, it might fit the CV joint. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07ZFB1N14/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Larry -- Larry - Victoria BC - 1977 Palm Beach 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New Atwood fridge, water heater & furnace. New SS exhaust system, 6000w Onan, Iota Converter, R134A A/C, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses