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Oil Filters - WTF??

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twlldeen@gmail.com
Sun, May 30, 2021 3:35 AM

It turns out this oil filter selection lark is a bit of a minefield for a newbie like me.

I went shopping for a 1978 Oldsmobile Toronado oil filter at Rock Auto and Rock Auto gave me this list to choose from:

(403 motor)

PRO-TEC 166
PUROLATOR L20123
CHAMP / LUBER-FINER PH59
BOSCH 3423
WIX 51045
HASTINGS / BALDWIN LF230 {#B30}
FRAM PH3675
FRAM PH3506
FRAM DG3429
FRAM TG3506
FRAM TG3675
ACDELCO UPF61R {#19391148}
MOBIL M1206A
BOSCH D3423
FRAM HP20

Normally I'd have gone with the Wix but I read something about it having no anti-return valve so bought the Bosch 3423 instead.

When it arrived it looked kinda skinny compared to the oil covered fatter one that was fitted to the engine so I'm thinking maybe I bought the wrong
filter?

Do I need to buy another one?

Larry

Larry - Victoria BC -

1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines

It turns out this oil filter selection lark is a bit of a minefield for a newbie like me. I went shopping for a 1978 Oldsmobile Toronado oil filter at Rock Auto and Rock Auto gave me this list to choose from: (403 motor) PRO-TEC 166 PUROLATOR L20123 CHAMP / LUBER-FINER PH59 BOSCH 3423 WIX 51045 HASTINGS / BALDWIN LF230 {#B30} FRAM PH3675 FRAM PH3506 FRAM DG3429 FRAM TG3506 FRAM TG3675 ACDELCO UPF61R {#19391148} MOBIL M1206A BOSCH D3423 FRAM HP20 Normally I'd have gone with the Wix but I read something about it having no anti-return valve so bought the Bosch 3423 instead. When it arrived it looked kinda skinny compared to the oil covered fatter one that was fitted to the engine so I'm thinking maybe I bought the wrong filter? Do I need to buy another one? Larry -- Larry - Victoria BC - 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system, operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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Burl Vibert
Sun, May 30, 2021 4:06 AM

At least you only bought one D3423, I bought two. :lol:

Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model

At least you only bought one D3423, I bought two. :lol: -- Burl Vibert Kingston, Ontario 1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model
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twlldeen@gmail.com
Sun, May 30, 2021 4:13 AM

Did yours fit?

Larry

Larry - Victoria BC -

1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines

Did yours fit? Larry -- Larry - Victoria BC - 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system, operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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Burl Vibert
Sun, May 30, 2021 3:29 PM

boybach wrote on Sat, 29 May 2021 23:13

Did yours fit?

Larry

I didn't try it yet, but it looks to be 1/2 the size of the one that's on, which is a NAPA 21258.  I'll probably get another NAPA even though this
Bosch seems to have a lot of material in it based on it's weight.
Because of how they sit I don't think an anti-drainback valve matters.

Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model

boybach wrote on Sat, 29 May 2021 23:13 > Did yours fit? > > Larry I didn't try it yet, but it looks to be 1/2 the size of the one that's on, which is a NAPA 21258. I'll probably get another NAPA even though this Bosch seems to have a lot of material in it based on it's weight. Because of how they sit I don't think an anti-drainback valve matters. -- Burl Vibert Kingston, Ontario 1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model
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Dave King
Sun, May 30, 2021 4:13 PM

LOTS of people on this forum use and recommend a WIX. Perhaps someone will respond with what the recommended WIX is. I think there are 2 different
diametersof filters that will work OK

DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

LOTS of people on this forum use and recommend a WIX. Perhaps someone will respond with what the recommended WIX is. I think there are 2 different diametersof filters that will work OK -- DAVE KING lurker, wannabe Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Larry
Sun, May 30, 2021 4:43 PM

I've been using the Wix 51258 since 2005.  The longer version of that filter is Wix 51049. JWID

Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

I've been using the Wix 51258 since 2005. The longer version of that filter is Wix 51049. JWID -- Larry 78 Royale w/500 Caddy Menomonie, WI.
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tomkatz3@comcast.net
Sun, May 30, 2021 7:14 PM

Larry,

I have also been using the WIX 51258.

Take care,
Tom

Tom & Oki Katzenberger,
Kingsville, Maryland,
1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D.

Larry, I have also been using the WIX 51258. Take care, Tom -- Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D.
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Ken Henderson
Sun, May 30, 2021 10:31 PM

Larry,
I know the Wix 51258 fits our Cad500's but wasn't sure it fits the 455 &
403 also -- does it?

Ken H.

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 12:44 PM Larry weidnerl@wwt.net wrote:

I've been using the Wix 51258 since 2005.  The longer version of that
filter is Wix 51049. JWID

Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.


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Rob
Sun, May 30, 2021 11:03 PM

I run the WIX 51258 on my 455.

Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath

On May 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Ken Henderson hend4800@bellsouth.net wrote:

´╗┐Larry,
I know the Wix 51258 fits our Cad500's but wasn't sure it fits the 455 &
403 also -- does it?

Ken H.

I run the WIX 51258 on my 455. Rob Victoria, BC 76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath > On May 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > ´╗┐Larry, > I know the Wix 51258 fits our Cad500's but wasn't sure it fits the 455 & > 403 also -- does it? > > Ken H.
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twlldeen@gmail.com
Sun, May 30, 2021 11:58 PM

The diameter of the Bosch filter is only 2-15/16" but the gasket is at the extremities. It probably will fit but it sure is skinny.....

Larry

Larry - Victoria BC -

1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines

The diameter of the Bosch filter is only 2-15/16" but the gasket is at the extremities. It probably will fit but it sure is skinny..... Larry -- Larry - Victoria BC - 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system, operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines